™Robots That Predict the Future: Dyna-2 & Physical AI — Jason Ma, Dyna Robotics
Latent Space published this 1-hour-21-minute-5-second interview on October 13, 2026; host swyx talks with Dyna Robotics co-founder and Chief Scientist Jason Ma about the Dyna-2 world-action model: training on over a million hours of human video, synthetic data, the wheeled semi-humanoid hardware cho
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Introduction and Dyna-2's world-action model
Diffusion transformers, flow matching, and generalist robots
The robotics data bottleneck
Synthetic data and self-improving world models
Full-stack robotics: hardware and supply chains
Why Dyna built a wheeled semi-humanoid
Autonomous workflows and hardware limitations
Real-world deployments at Best Western and Din Tai Fung
The bitter lesson of robotics
GPT-6, coding agents, and AI-native robotics
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